>NY Rock interview with Eminem - "It's lonely at the top" (2001)
Are fame and fortune
dreams come true? According to Eminem,
they're more of a nightmare.
Born Marshall Mathers
III and alternately known as Slim
Shady, the guy from Detroit came
from out of nowhere, skyrocketed
to hip-hop stardom in less than
two years, and is now a household
name, unfortunately, for all the
wrong reasons. With four-million
copies sold in five weeks (ten-million
to date), Eminem's latest release
The Marshall Mathers LP scored
the best-selling solo debut week
in pop history. The CD won countless
awards, accolades, and, an avalanche
of criticism, for its implications
of violence and prejudice. The
unrestrained rapper has become
a steady guest on every rock radio
station's playlist and every publication's
headlines. Each for very different
reasons. Eminem has kept the news
desks full with his controversial
lyrics, arrests, weapons charges,
lawsuits, marital disputes, and,
believe it or not, four Grammy
nominations – complete with corresponding
backlash from critics and activist
groups alike. NYROCK: So
how does it feel to be rich, famous
and the idol of countless teenagers? EMINEM: I
always wished for this, but it's
almost turning into more of a
nightmare than a dream. I mean,
everybody wants to ride on my
fuckin' coat tails. Everybody's
trying to hang on to, wants a
piece of my ass. You gotta be
careful what you wish for; you
just might get it. NYROCK: What's
so bad about being a star? EMINEM: I
can't go out anymore and play
basketball, because everybody
knows my fuckin' face. All I really
wanted was to have a career in
hip hop and now I got to deal
with so much shit! There are people
coming to my house, knocking on
the door. Either they want autographs
or they wanna fight. It's fuckin'
crazy! NYROCK: Not
to be smart, but I think you're
getting quite an ample compensation
for it. Okay, the loss of privacy
is hard, but certainly you knew
what was coming? EMINEM: Nobody
really understands the pressures
put on me. I'm under so much fuckin'
pressure, pressure to always be
good, pressure to always be on
point. There are so many pressures
that go with my job right now.
It's crazy. Sometimes I think
I do a lot of fuckin' crazy shit
but then I don't know what the
fuck is normal. My life certainly
isn't. Maybe it never was.... NYROCK: What
was your life like before you
became famous? EMINEM: Before
I was famous, when I was just
working in Gilbert's Lodge, everything
was moving in slow motion. Now
it seems like somebody has pressed
the fuckin' fast forward button
and my life just seems to be rushing
by. It sometimes feels like a
strange movie, you know, it's
all so weird that sometimes I
wonder if it is really happening.
But I tell you the fuckin' shit
feels a lot more real than the
good things. That's fuckin' strange! NYROCK: There
has been much controversy over
your liberal use of the word "faggot"
and what people perceive as gay
bashing. It's put you right in
the line of fire from gay and
lesbian groups the world over... EMINEM: I'm
not gay bashing. People just don't
understand where I come from.
"Faggot" to me doesn't
necessarily mean gay people. "Faggot"
to me just means... taking away
your manhood. You're a sissy.
You're a coward. Just like you
might sit around in your living
room and say, "Dude, stop,
you're being a fag, dude." NYROCK: But
you can see how it would insult
homosexuals? EMINEM: Yeah,
but it does not necessarily mean
you're being a gay person. It
just means you're being a fag.
You're being an asshole or whatever.
That's the way that the word was
always taught to me. That's how
I learned the word. Battling with
somebody, you do anything you
can to strip their manhood away. NYROCK: Sometimes
it seems that you enjoy creating
a bit of ruckus. I wonder if "faggot"
is really necessary ... EMINEM: I
come from Detroit where it's rough
and I'm not a smooth talker. I
am who I am and I say what I think.
I'm not putting a face on for
the record. When I started saying
"faggot" on record,
I started getting people going,
"You have something against
gay people," and I thought
it was funny. Because I don't;
I really don't. I have something
against assholes, but I'm not
into gay bashing. A lot of people
are too stupid to understand it. NYROCK: Your
mouth got you in quite a lot of
trouble. Would it be easier to
bite back some remarks, to stop
the misunderstandings? It might
keep people from coming to your
door and trying to fight you... EMINEM: I
don't think it would stop them.
They'd think I'm a sissy and would
really want to kick my ass. My
thing is this; if I'm sick enough
to think it, then I'm sick enough
to say it. Why are these thoughts
in my head? A lot of people think
a lot worse shit than I do. They
just don't say it. If I'm crazy
enough to think it, then I'm crazy
enough to say it. So who's worse?
Come on, I mean somebody who thinks
really weird fuckin' shit, shit
I really don't want to think about.
But I got nailed for saying just
mildly sick shit. That's how I
base my whole shit. I think there's
a reason why I think this way.
I don't think I say the things
I say for no reason. I write it
down and say it. You know, I call
it being honest, but some sick
asshole who does sick things on
the sly and doesn't talk about
it is cool? NYROCK: I
guess you're not aiming for a
career in diplomatic service... EMINEM: Fuck
no! I say what I want to say and
do what I want to do. There's
no in between. People will either
love you for it or hate you for
it. That's what I've found just
on a street level – fans, and
people on the street. They either
can't stand me or love me for
telling the truth and saying what's
on my mind. NYROCK: You're
a father; you have a little daughter.
There has been mention in the
media of lawsuits. I just want
to know about your plans. Being
a parent seems like a big responsibility... EMINEM: I know and I want to be there
for my daughter, whenever she
needs me. I want to be with her
on every step of the way, ya know.
She's the best thing that happened
to me. Fuck all the fame and shit,
Hailie is far more important.
She keeps me from being too extreme.
I realize that no matter how crazy
I act onstage or how wild I may
get, there's got to be a limit.
I can't step out of a certain
boundary. I have to be here for
her. Her father has to remain
alive. I have to maintain. She
really helps me when I'm about
to do something too stupid. All
I have to do is think about Hailie.
She keeps me in check, definitely.
What can I say? I love her and
a lot of shit has happened to
me, but Hailie makes up for everything.
In a way, she also makes up for
all the fuckin' pressure and all
the shit. My daughter's not gonna
need anything the rest of her
life and that makes me feel real
good. Fuckin' good!