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2pac - Loyal To The Game (2004)

Postby HitEmUpRobbo on Sun Oct 15, 2006 11:33 pm

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Artist: 2pac
Album: Loyal To The Game
Label: Amaru / Interscope
Release Date: December 14, 2004

Track listing:
1. Soldier Like Me
2. The Uppercut featuring Edi & Noble of the Outlawz
3. Out On Bail
4. Ghetto Gospel
5. Black Cotton featuring Eminem & Kastrom & Noble of the Outlawz
6. Loyal To The Game featuring 50 Cent, Lloyd Banks and Young Buck
7. Thugs Get Lonely Too-featuring Nate Dogg
8. N.I.G.G.A-featuring Jadakiss
9. Who Do You Love?
10. Crooked Nigga Too
11. Don't You Trust Me
12. Hennessey featuring Obie Trice
13. Thug 4 Life
14. Po Nigga Blues-Scott Storch Remix featuring Ron Isley
15. Hennessey Red Spyda Remix featuring EDI & Sleepy Brown
16. Crooked Nigga Too - Raphael Saadiq Remix
17. Loyal To The Game - DJ Quik Remix featuring Big Syke

RAPCENTRAL REVIEW:
Loyal to the Game, the ninth 2Pac album released by his enterprising mother-turned-executive producer, Afeni Shakur, is one of the more unique entries in Tupac's extensive catalog. Produced entirely by Eminem, it carries on with the approach Eminem took with his production contributions to the earlier 'Tupac: Resurrection'. Eminem had produced a few songs on that soundtrack, most notably the landmark 2Pac & Biggie duet "Runnin' (Dying to Live)," and his work here on Loyal to the Game isn't too much of a departure from the style of that song. In the wake of the song's popularity, Afeni gave Eminem some old tapes, and he went to work, stripping them of their productions, giving them his own trademark backing, incorporating some guest raps for secondary verses, and polishing them off with various sorts of hooks.

In our view Eminem's efforts here work, yet aren't ideal for a full Tupac album, the odd song could have been tolerated or even a classic. His beats hit hard and are well crafted, most similar to his more hardcore self-productions like "Mosh" or "Lose Yourself." His hooks are also well crafted: he takes the hook himself on "Soldier Like Me"; brings in 50 Cent and Nate Dogg for "Loyal to the Game" and "Thugs Get Lonely Too," respectively; samples Elton John ("Indian Sunset"), Curtis Mayfield ("If There's a Hell Below"), and Dido ("Do You Have a Little Time") for other songs; and lets 2Pac handle his own hooks elsewhere. On the other, more cynical hand that 2pacWorld.co.uk stand to represent, Eminem simply isn't a good fit, and the four bonus tracks here testify to what could have been. Produced by Scott Storch, Red Spyda, Raphael Saadiq, and DJ Quik, these bonus track "remixes" are clearly the highlights of the album, and show what could, and in most of Tupac's long term fans views, should have been. These guys produce beats much more fitting to 2Pac's rhyme style. Sure, Eminem is a great artist and producer, but he produces these 2Pac tracks as if he were producing for himself, and 2Pac is a much different breed of rapper than Slim Shady, especially in terms of the style of poetry used, the meaning of the poetry, and the delivery. This is all the more evident because the source tapes of these tracks date back to the early '90s, when 2Pac was at his funkiest and least hardcore. (While the dates aren't provided in the credits, the original producers are credited: Randy "Stretch" Walker, DJ Daryl, Live Squad, and Deon Evans, all of whom worked with Pac during his early years, namely the early '90s, just as he was leaving Digital Underground and getting his career off the ground.)

2pacWorld.co.uk were in disbelieve when we found that Eminem used his position to edit/change Tupacs lyrics to give 'shout outs' to artists on Eminems record label, such as G-Unit, and Obie Trice, which in my view was a blatant disrespect of Tupac and what he stood for. The album is littered with performances of artists that Tupac had never been affiliated with, or even met during his short life, and the original artists who recorded the tracks with Tupac, have seen themselves edited out to make way for Eminems own artists.

How much Loyal to the Game ultimately appeals to you will likely depend on how much you like Eminem. After all, this is as much his album as it is 2Pac's. If you're fond of his lock-step beatmaking and big hooks, you'll find much to like here, and Pac's rhymes are always fascinating in any context, even at this early stage of his career. But if you're not down with Marshall Mathers, you'll probably want to pass this one by, though the four bonus tracks alone might make this a worthwhile venture regardless.

TOP TRACKS: 2. The Uppercut, 14. Po Nigga Blues, 7. Thugs Get Lonely Too
RAPCENTRAL OVERALL RATING: 2.5/5



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ALL MUSIC GUIDE REVIEW:

Loyal to the Game, the ninth 2Pac album released by his enterprising mother-turned-executive producer, Afeni Shakur, is one of the more unique entries in the martyred rap legend's extensive catalog. Produced entirely by Eminem, it carries on with the approach the man otherwise known as Marshall Mathers took with his production contributions to the preceding year's Tupac: Resurrection. Eminem had produced a few songs on that soundtrack, most notably the landmark 2Pac-Biggie duet "Runnin' (Dying to Live)," and his work here on Loyal to the Game isn't too much of a departure from the style of that song. In the wake of that song's popularity, Afeni gave Eminem some old tapes, and he went to work, stripping them of their productions, giving them his own trademark backing (characterized by his style of punchy, syncopated, unfunky beatmaking), incorporating some guest raps for secondary verses, and polishing them off with various sorts of hooks. Eminem's efforts here work, even if they aren't ideal. On the one hand, there's no questioning Em's integrity. He pens some reverent liner notes, explaining his position (or justifying it, depending on your viewpoint), and Afeni also pens some touching liners, likewise explaining why Eminem of all people gets the green light to produce this album in its entirety. And Em doesn't take his job here lightly. His beats hit hard and are well crafted, most similar to his more hardcore self-productions like "Mosh" or "Lose Yourself." His hooks are also well crafted: he takes the hook himself on "Soldier Like Me"; brings in 50 Cent and Nate Dogg for "Loyal to the Game" and "Thugs Get Lonely Too," respectively; samples Elton John ("Indian Sunset"), Curtis Mayfield ("If There's a Hell Below"), and Dido ("Do You Have a Little Time") for other songs; and lets 2Pac handle his own hooks elsewhere. On the other, more cynical hand, Eminem simply isn't a good fit, and the four bonus tracks here testify to what could have been. Produced by Scott Storch, Red Spyda, Raphael Saadiq, and DJ Quik, these bonus track "remixes" are clearly the highlights of the album (and quite fantastic highlights at that, perhaps alone reason enough to pick up this album). These guys produce beats much more fitting to 2Pac's rhyme style. Sure, Eminem is a great producer, but he produces these 2Pac tracks as if he were producing himself, and 2Pac is a much different breed of rapper than Slim Shady, especially in terms of cadence and delivery. This is all the more evident because the source tapes of these tracks date back to the early '90s, when 2Pac was at his funkiest and least hardcore. (While the dates aren't provided in the credits, the original producers are credited: Randy "Stretch" Walker, DJ Daryl, Live Squad, and Deon Evans, all of whom worked with Pac during his early years, namely the early '90s, just as he was leaving Digital Underground and getting his career off the ground. Various time-specific references within Pac's lyrics are further evidence of this, such as passing references to the L.A. riots.) How much Loyal to the Game ultimately appeals to you will likely depend on how much you like Eminem. After all, this is as much his album as 2Pac's -- a labor of love, no doubt. If you're fond of his lock-step beatmaking and big hooks, you'll find much to like here, for Pac's rhymes are undoubtedly fascinating in any context, even at this early stage of his career. ~ Jason Birchmeier, All Music Guide
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Postby HitEmUpRobbo on Thu Oct 26, 2006 10:25 am

ive made this into a propa review now, so please EVERYONE ADD YOUR FEELINGS AND RATING FOR THIS ALBUM NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Postby Westside niggaz on Thu Oct 26, 2006 11:52 am

First off ama eminem fan, but in tha first place a 2pac fan, so for me this album pretty much suck thb
Eminem putt to much his own style in this album, witch def dont match with pac's flow..

Not to mention the way em tryd to promote his own record label, without bringin a tribute or showin much respect to 2pac. but still its a 2pac album witch made rush to tha store to get it after hearin it.

My favourite songs: Black cotton, thugz get lonely to n uppercut
My rating: 2/5
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Postby Eazy-ED on Thu Oct 26, 2006 12:08 pm

Unlike many other Pac albums, I did not buy this album, but I downloaded it, which, after listening it, was a good choice... I didn't think Eminem combined with 2Pac is a good combination, and I still think that way.

Favorite songs: Out On Bail & Ghetto Gospel
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Postby HitEmUpRobbo on Thu Oct 26, 2006 12:19 pm

good reviews you two, props, ill post both your opinions up on the main site! :bang:
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Postby ShatterPoint on Thu Oct 26, 2006 10:33 pm

Lol nice one robo. I was like ... is this the one I used as a guide :)))

Anyways I wasnt impressed at all by this album. Such high anticipation for it to.
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Postby HitEmUpRobbo on Fri Oct 27, 2006 2:21 am

LOL, ALBUM DOWNLOAD LINK IS NOW UPDATED!!!
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Postby booj1893 on Fri Oct 27, 2006 12:19 pm

i was dissapointed that eminem slowed down pac rhymes which is suicidal in my opinion

the album was ok not great as other work done by em 2/5

best track- out on bail
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Postby ragingbull on Sun Oct 29, 2006 12:00 pm

I liked this album and gave it a 4
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Postby The Game on Tue Oct 31, 2006 9:35 pm

some songs are good but most of the song are raped by eminem
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Postby Burnt Ice on Tue Oct 31, 2006 10:43 pm

i like it still but he has great track everywhere
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Postby Shenron on Tue Oct 31, 2006 10:48 pm

im balanced, on the one hand it was 2pac, but eminem didnt capture any of his message, his heart, it was just his material, which he edited and fucked up. so lower than all the albums he made while alive, but the club must be lovin that shit, enjoy dancin 2 what eminem has turned pac's legacy into nowadays, that fuckin nobody
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Postby Notorious BIG on Thu Nov 02, 2006 11:44 pm

I respect this album but i dont think its good as Until End Of The Time :cool:
i gave 4 points for it ;)
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Postby Kid Pac on Sat Nov 04, 2006 7:47 am

2/5, imo

not to bad but nothing grate,
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Postby lostsoul89 on Mon Nov 06, 2006 9:03 pm

theres a couple of good tracks, but in my opinion its the worst official Pac release
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Postby kishmil on Mon Nov 20, 2006 3:25 am

its pretty tight
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Postby Candi on Mon Nov 20, 2006 10:27 pm

2Pac's vocal's have just become a big cut and paste session to put out anything. Fact is that that for the past couple of years, the integrity of 2Pac's music has been thrown out the window. Even off the whole nostalgic note, there are defiantly a couple of tracks that makes it worth it for the Tupac fanatic, but otherwise this album was a disappointing effort.
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Postby HitEmUpRobbo on Tue Nov 21, 2006 3:53 am

Candi wrote:2Pac's vocal's have just become a big cut and paste session to put out anything. Fact is that that for the past couple of years, the integrity of 2Pac's music has been thrown out the window. Even off the whole nostalgic note, there are defiantly a couple of tracks that makes it worth it for the Tupac fanatic, but otherwise this album was a disappointing effort.


:werd: well put gurl!

i think this album is the real reason why em wanted to retire!
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Postby 2Pac4life on Sun Dec 03, 2006 10:46 am

Ok first of all how its gonna be "tite"all of the songs dont even sound like him,his voice is changed,flow is speeded up or slowed down, and just the beats whats up with tha? cmon now i dont know what to give it but 2/5 because man i think eminem could of at least made beats that match pacs flow if eminem is that great he could of done it but he didnt.
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Postby EdzThaPimp on Mon Dec 04, 2006 6:33 pm

This Album Is a disgrace to pac. Enough said.
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Postby LilFox on Mon Dec 04, 2006 6:52 pm

yeah I like this album... It's one of my favs of Pac, but I think That All Eyez On Me Is one of his best... hehe
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Postby buccmann on Tue Dec 05, 2006 11:20 am

PROPS......The best post pac album was 2 the end of Time!!!!!
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Postby Reaper08 on Sun Dec 17, 2006 11:28 am

thnx for the link :)
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Postby nv793 on Wed Dec 27, 2006 8:57 pm

i would give this 4 cuz its pretty sick, but def. not his best
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Postby LilGame on Thu Jan 25, 2007 1:20 pm

4 for pac. Rip
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